Sparkle has already said that 5.0 cannot support the old trade system anymore.
That is why it will be removed.
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That is why it will be removed.
Thriem
Active Member
Hi ya Avi! Well i made a thread regarding this topic in more detail but there will be several problems if adjustments are not made. Running 1 cargo from Nuia to Haranya will cost you between 14g (abundant) to 26g per pack on the high end. Players running packs inland effects that % going up or down. The charcoal or onyx essence you get for that 1 cargo is 15 in Haranya 30 in DS. I would much rather do my Kark or Rokhala runs especially when the larder is cheap to make and I get 77-88 charcoal per pack on ave 1360 charcoal per 18 packs Rokhala to TC. I know going forward the old trade system can not be supported but we can try to make the new one better https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...CBC4077D647851B42CE6CBC&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
From what I've been reading on live forums, practically no one liked the new trade system, and still having the old trade system is actually one of the main selling points when one is describing this server to potential new players. We're already at a rather unpopular patch, so if further patches will inevitably bring even less popular changes that can't be alleviated by custom features anymore, I'm curious as to what the major upsides of moving forward would be?
It was removed only for players in 3.5. Client support was still available for it until 5.0, so we could return and maintain old system. But, as I said, in 5.0 it’s fully removed by XL, so it’s not possible to keep that system any longer.
Why that was done by them only in 5.0? I can explain it. As some Asian servers (i.e. Thai server) received the updates with big delay, XL kept client support of the old trade system by the moment all servers received the trade system update.
Beerson
Member
Make a forum event like the screenshot events for players to suggest custom changes to specific areas of the game that are underperforming (fishing, balance, gold packs etc.) and reward best submission(s) with 1k credit and maybe title, no participation award so that people don't post silly ideas to get chance on free stuff
maybe lead on it with another iteration where the best submission(s) are improved upon again for some small reward for putting the time and effort in
it will improve the "public image", give players unhappy with the state of game something productive to do to improve the server and give us ammo to tell newcomers that "the devs are working to improve the game so you should play/keep playing here" pointing at the forum contest
maybe lead on it with another iteration where the best submission(s) are improved upon again for some small reward for putting the time and effort in
it will improve the "public image", give players unhappy with the state of game something productive to do to improve the server and give us ammo to tell newcomers that "the devs are working to improve the game so you should play/keep playing here" pointing at the forum contest
Make a separate thread with suggestions for it, so more players would notice it and join discussion.
We can do something with it - add more options for Bidding Period and proportionally increase gold fee for it or maybe change those already available from 6/12/24/48 to 24/48/1week/2weeks. Maybe someone would have other more effective ideas or different options that majority would prefer; or may support one of those or has what to say against. Based on that we can make some changes in AH Bidding Period and fee.
Aviendha
Well-Known Member
Aye, I know the system isn't exactly the same, but he's talking about pvp on the ocean for charcoal tr and technically that will still be available ?
Hi, currently there is a bug with the towers used to summon the Thunderwing Titan in Reedwind.
Specifically, the Player Nation towers.
If you build one of the player nation towers and go through (you will be able to receive the buff to summon using a horn), you can summon at either Thunderwing horn for player nations, in addition to this, if you build one of the player nation towers and then summon at the horn that does not correspond with the tower you build at, the tower you built will not derank since it doesn't associate with the horn that was used to summon the boss.
Here is an easy to understand illustration.
Not hard to see how this is a massive advantage to a PN!
If a faction summons TWT, all of their towers should be deranked to stage 1. Also just gonna throw it in that it's kind of unfair that a PN has two horns they can summon from with a building buff from EITHER, when every other faction only has 1.
Specifically, the Player Nation towers.
If you build one of the player nation towers and go through (you will be able to receive the buff to summon using a horn), you can summon at either Thunderwing horn for player nations, in addition to this, if you build one of the player nation towers and then summon at the horn that does not correspond with the tower you build at, the tower you built will not derank since it doesn't associate with the horn that was used to summon the boss.
Here is an easy to understand illustration.
Not hard to see how this is a massive advantage to a PN!
If a faction summons TWT, all of their towers should be deranked to stage 1. Also just gonna throw it in that it's kind of unfair that a PN has two horns they can summon from with a building buff from EITHER, when every other faction only has 1.
Drunkenhero
Active Member
Similar to that other server do yall have the ability to create custom houses and such? The game on its current patch and really the next couple till 6.0 is boring AF and most people have slowed down playing. I was wondering if maybe we can use some of that sick real-estate underwater and maybe come up with an auroria styled area or four under the seas? With some custom quests and like new items that help with breath and movement. How hard would that be?
Couple games I loved with High Seas and Underseas adventures were like WoW, Rift and the like. AA nailed the Ocean for me, but there is so much empty space, even mirrior tundra for instance that have all this room we could expand some custom lore on.
Couple games I loved with High Seas and Underseas adventures were like WoW, Rift and the like. AA nailed the Ocean for me, but there is so much empty space, even mirrior tundra for instance that have all this room we could expand some custom lore on.
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Would be nice if they put all those new tent houses into the credit/gilda store, I don't think many of them made it into the game unfortunately.
We'll take a look.
That another AA server doesn't create custom houses. They take them from other games, for example, Minecraft. That doesn't really look good and doesn't fit into AA very well. We don't think it's a good idea to rip pieces out of other games. That is not something we will ever do.
If we do more new custom housing, we'll use only AA models, as we did with the tents. Currently we are working on a number of new quests, new custom boss and a few other things that we hope to present to the players within the next few weeks.
As for the new underwater activity, it can be interesting to expand it, but sometimes it's hard to tell if we can or can't do this or that until we try to go deeper into details. We can try something new for it after we are done with the current projects. If anyone have any interesting suggestions: event, quests, etc, feel free to suggest and we'll see what can be done.
Those will rotate as other items and will be added to the marketplace again.
Drunkenhero
Active Member
As an expansion to this, since the recommendation wasn't really accepted. Could Trade/Fert houses be beefed up to support making the Normal and Gilda packs on them? One of the secondary reasons nobody runs these is the pack makers are always in lame spots.
I still think a fix for the 5.0 lack of supporting the old trade system is flipping the normal/larder values as it will make it to where there is always a lot and people can at least get some, take it somewhere and run it later if it becomes camped heavy.
I fail to see how allowing trade manors that ability would make the packs be created more. You're only saving a few minutes at most with this
Aviendha
Well-Known Member
I beg to differ. The machines in Gweonid , for example, are on the far side of the zone compared to the exit, whereas a strategically placed house at the border to Lilyut would save a lot of time and frustration as Gweon has so many places to get stuck and the roads are... Well, not straight at all.
I'm sure many players will appreciate the ability to use a well-situated trademan's house.
Drunkenhero
Active Member
I will enlighten you on that topic. If something takes 4-5 more minutes or is land locked compared to an easier sea route then it is not valuable for a few reasons.
1. Time - Pretty simple, if it takes me 5 more minutes to run something like a Gwen Normal pack VS a Fert pack from my trade house on the Gwen Lilyut border for similar mat cost I will run the fertilizer pack as I don't run one hauler and finish up for the day. I run multiple say to Solis or Vil for example, parking them somewhere till I have a merchant load. That merchant load at full capacity is 22 packs, 21 and 1 for me. So 3 Hauler tuns, 1 Car run which is generally 1/4 of the time. So it took me 15 mins plus 1.25 to just fill the boat compared to that fertilizer house time minus that 16 mins as the example.
2. Materiel cost - Sure we all know the super Fertilizer formula of 50 50 50 50 so lets break that down by AH price which is the baseline:
- Chopped Produce 1.65
- Dried Flowers 2
- Ground Grain 1.50
- Trimmed Meat 1.75
VS - Example
Gwen Normal Pack
- 180 Chopped Produce 5.94
- 5 Apple 9s7cs
Similar in price, less labor for the normal pack,
3. Location - While time might be a factor, the actual location of the specialty makers are all in stupid spots even with the closest to sea or closest to road locations. Two Crowns sits on a hill on both benches. I however have a fertilizer house and fellowship I can simply back a boat into and make packs to load directly to the ship from either one.
4. Fun - A fun run will beat a run you have to wade through a bunch of crap to get to a road and get somewhere as well.
Time, cost, location, location, location and fun are always why people do what they do.
The trade system will not function when the patch hits. Everyone will just move to farming mobs or in the case of the really low GS players get stuck in an inferior system and will switch to farming only.
Allow the players that have the houses get more use out of them to see if it will help spur that cargo system. I think it really will help, and the best spots are player driven.
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Drunkenhero
Active Member
Hell make an item that you can place in your yard that does this and sell it on the cash shop or put in a weekly box. People will go apeshit over it wanting one. It will also make it to where everyone can have access regardless of house type.
GraceHowks
Member
Would it be possible to put partitions in yard? To decorate it would be beautiful.
Example (I don't know how this person did it, maybe in some old patch):
Example (I don't know how this person did it, maybe in some old patch):
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Nothing has changed in the requirements for partitions from the moment they were released.
But we will consider the option to place them in the yard as well.