Reverte Kick Mechanic as it was before the Change

[Seraphin]

Because it was said we should make Thread to Change something and we have reviced that things dont be changed from Singel Persons Msg i would ask if this change should be reverted or not. Until now no Thread Suggestion or something else was posted about that where the change comes from

 

[Soothsayer]

So after ur unjustified kraken changes that you can't attend but seem to think shortening them is a good idea were basically denied because it was obvious that you want changes to simply hinder us.

You're now attempting to change kick system and the voting system that were used maliciously against specifically us. Seems you just have it out for us bud.

 

[Sparkle]

We don't plan to reverse this change. % required to vote kick a player was increased as vote kick system was abused by the players to kick players from the raid before instance has even started, or even if instance started but player did nothing wrong to be kicked.

If you have a better suggestion on how to avoid this abuse, we'd like to hear it.

 

[Riseee]

The people that is votting no is the people that use macros to stay afk.... I m collecting data of ppl macroing to stay afk on halcy

 

[DrRageQuit]

So after ur unjustified kraken changes that you can't attend but seem to think shortening them is a good idea were basically denied because it was obvious that you want changes to simply hinder us.

You're now attempting to change kick system and the voting system that were used maliciously against specifically us. Seems you just have it out for us bud.

I'm sure its all about you, not the 20-30 afks and alts west has at halcy every day making shit a nightmare for healers dumped in the coraid (or not) and granting tens of thousands of honor and labor to alt toons.

Kick system wouldnt be needed if more was done to combat that shit.

 

[Soothsayer]

Whats the issue with alts afking when the raids arent being filled anyways ? If you had full co then yes but unless the alts are inting there is no issue

 

[Seraphin]

We don't plan to reverse this change. % required to vote kick a player was increased as vote kick system was abused by the players to kick players from the raid before instance has even started, or even if instance started but player did nothing wrong to be kicked.

If you have a better suggestion on how to avoid this abuse, we'd like to hear it.

This argument is not valid Sparkle, same happend before nothing was changed (because we ask for removig the kick system and not increase the % to kick People, what actual would the a suggestion from the Admin Team because we dont know the % for things)

So after ur unjustified kraken changes that you can't attend but seem to think shortening them is a good idea were basically denied because it was obvious that you want changes to simply hinder us.

You're now attempting to change kick system and the voting system that were used maliciously against specifically us. Seems you just have it out for us bud.

You are not the center of the World Mr Soothsayer if you would read then you would have seen "the timers where made from the admins 2 out of the Range and only 1 on a Sunday where People now have better things to do, you know after Pandamic and co), The Despawn Timer dont know i didnt opend it but i think you know that
And to say i looking for things to disturbe your peacefull life in AA dosnt count, you should more think about why people from the East Side chased after y Example ( PK on Events, Denined East Content etc) it was nothing we did

 

[Moist]

Whats the issue with alts afking when the raids arent being filled anyways ? If you had full co then yes but unless the alts are inting there is no issue

If they don't punish using a macro to stay afk, it causes more players to see doing it is safe and will also begin doing it, causing fewer active players to participate in Halcy on both sides. If you can get free rewards for afking for 20 minutes without any punishment from admins OR players, why actively participate?

 

[Miseo]

If they don't punish using a macro to stay afk, it causes more players to see doing it is safe and will also begin doing it, causing fewer active players to participate in Halcy on both sides. If you can get free rewards for afking for 20 minutes without any punishment from admins OR players, why actively participate?

only reason to participate is for better rewards. people who dont care, will do the bare minimum regardless.

 

[Moist]

only reason to participate is for better rewards. people who dont care, will do the bare minimum regardless.

agreed, but the rewards for being in second place are barely worse than being in first place. By getting kicked or having some form of threat against them if they choose to not participate, it'd theoretically scare people into more activity. I've suggested random admin sweeps of the respawn bases to possibly scare people into assuming they're being watched but other than admin intervention there's not an in-game way to fix this without player abuse

 

[Sparkle]

We are looking into the possibility of applying additional mechanism (or adding a rule) to detect players that join but don't participate and punish them is some way for inactivity. But % required to vote kick a player will not be reduced as players start abusing that mechanic instead of using it as designed.

 

[Nyx]

And yet enough players afk in halcy that u may as well just remove the votekick mechanic entirely cause to much of a proportion are afk for the possibility of a vote to ever pass could ever happen anyways .