Disrep
Active Member
This is one of the more hidden debates in Archeage, adding lucky sun/moon/star to actual drop tables in the game. These items had a health influx into the game due to whales opening rng boxes and flooding the market with them, but dont really have a healthy way to enter the private server due to them not being in rng boxes, and alts not being in the game. In the private server discord, we had a lengthy discussion about if we did this and how we would do it, so I would like to propose this question to the rest of you guys.
Aside from getting a healthy flow into the game, this change is made to provide viability to other bosses besides 3. Come late game, bosses like Morpheus/Meina/Anthalon/Hanure/Rangora/Nazar lose their use even if they are the only way to get the crafting materials. Because higher tier guilds have a lock down on most "valuable" bosses, these other bosses often become untouched. Adding this change promotes way more guilds to get their feet wet in "content". There is absolutely no way one guild can control every single boss in the game. Thats way too hard, its already hard enough controlling 6 dgs spawns, kraken, red dragon, and anthalon, people dont even do that now.
The big thing with this change is to keep them out of rng boxes
World Bosses in Nuia/Haranya (Cr/Gr Hounds, Hanure, Dumb Golem Spawn in Hasla)
- 75% Chance Lucky Starpoint, 25% Chance Lucky Moon
Auroria/Water Bosses (Meina, Anthalon, Jola, Rangora, Morpheus, Nazar)
-75% Chance of 1-2 Lucky Moons, 25% Chance for 1-2 Lucky Suns
End Game Bosses (Red Dragon, Glenn)
-50% chance 1 lucky sun, 25% chance 2 lucky sun, 12% chance 3 lucky sun, 12% chance 4 lucky sun
Bosses such as Kraken and DGS should remain untouched because they drop raw gold.
Please talk about this, I think this would be an amazing change to the game that would promote so much more activity between guilds!
FAQ:
This would allow guilds who already do content to snowball even harder!
- This is not true. At the moment, there is no guild who has a strangle hold on the server because there's so many guilds constantly contesting. Bosses like anthalon are a flip flop between 4 different guilds. Doing this change would only add more people to come out and contest, and more bosses in general to kill. No guild can control all of these bosses at once.
This would break the economy because there's a heavy influx of luckies going into the game, causing divine armor to drop drastically.
-Not true. At the moment, with current prices, lucky sunpoints and moonpoints are very high for the current economy. I know some people dont like to use real money examples of why this is bad, but this is the easiest way to tell if something is heavily over priced. Private server gold sells for around $15 per 1k. One lucky sunpoint is around 1k. You're paying $15 for a less than 25% chance to have a weapon go up. That's way too high considering the amount of money being put in the game is low. Divine Pieces around $90 per 1 piece. Thats absurd at this stage. A divine piece should not equal the same amount as retail, when gold there is $6 per k.
Having this change in the game puts a stable flow of these items into the game. It would also open up loyalty to be used in more things than just luckies. Things like the 220 crit gems, the 150 tracker gems, costumes, mounts, would be more accessable because the gate holding luckies in the game has been released. People would regrade more, which would cause more gold to leave the game, balancing out more divines coming into the game.
This also assumes that every single one of these bosses are killed on cooldown, which is not true at all. Often times the heavily contested bosses dont even get killed and despawn due to it being in the wee hours of the day or other guilds stopping the attempt.
One guild would just horde all of these and not release them into the marketplace
- Because the fact that these changes involve more than just end game bosses, items become even more accessible for the average person. Jola is easily killed by a pug raid, and they drop lucky sunpoints with these changes. Cr/GR bosses have chances to drop lucky moonpoints, which is even more incentive to kill them ant release them. On top of this, you still have the option of accessing these through loyalty. The bottleneck would only get wider with this change.
Aside from getting a healthy flow into the game, this change is made to provide viability to other bosses besides 3. Come late game, bosses like Morpheus/Meina/Anthalon/Hanure/Rangora/Nazar lose their use even if they are the only way to get the crafting materials. Because higher tier guilds have a lock down on most "valuable" bosses, these other bosses often become untouched. Adding this change promotes way more guilds to get their feet wet in "content". There is absolutely no way one guild can control every single boss in the game. Thats way too hard, its already hard enough controlling 6 dgs spawns, kraken, red dragon, and anthalon, people dont even do that now.
The big thing with this change is to keep them out of rng boxes
World Bosses in Nuia/Haranya (Cr/Gr Hounds, Hanure, Dumb Golem Spawn in Hasla)
- 75% Chance Lucky Starpoint, 25% Chance Lucky Moon
Auroria/Water Bosses (Meina, Anthalon, Jola, Rangora, Morpheus, Nazar)
-75% Chance of 1-2 Lucky Moons, 25% Chance for 1-2 Lucky Suns
End Game Bosses (Red Dragon, Glenn)
-50% chance 1 lucky sun, 25% chance 2 lucky sun, 12% chance 3 lucky sun, 12% chance 4 lucky sun
Bosses such as Kraken and DGS should remain untouched because they drop raw gold.
Please talk about this, I think this would be an amazing change to the game that would promote so much more activity between guilds!
FAQ:
This would allow guilds who already do content to snowball even harder!
- This is not true. At the moment, there is no guild who has a strangle hold on the server because there's so many guilds constantly contesting. Bosses like anthalon are a flip flop between 4 different guilds. Doing this change would only add more people to come out and contest, and more bosses in general to kill. No guild can control all of these bosses at once.
This would break the economy because there's a heavy influx of luckies going into the game, causing divine armor to drop drastically.
-Not true. At the moment, with current prices, lucky sunpoints and moonpoints are very high for the current economy. I know some people dont like to use real money examples of why this is bad, but this is the easiest way to tell if something is heavily over priced. Private server gold sells for around $15 per 1k. One lucky sunpoint is around 1k. You're paying $15 for a less than 25% chance to have a weapon go up. That's way too high considering the amount of money being put in the game is low. Divine Pieces around $90 per 1 piece. Thats absurd at this stage. A divine piece should not equal the same amount as retail, when gold there is $6 per k.
Having this change in the game puts a stable flow of these items into the game. It would also open up loyalty to be used in more things than just luckies. Things like the 220 crit gems, the 150 tracker gems, costumes, mounts, would be more accessable because the gate holding luckies in the game has been released. People would regrade more, which would cause more gold to leave the game, balancing out more divines coming into the game.
This also assumes that every single one of these bosses are killed on cooldown, which is not true at all. Often times the heavily contested bosses dont even get killed and despawn due to it being in the wee hours of the day or other guilds stopping the attempt.
One guild would just horde all of these and not release them into the marketplace
- Because the fact that these changes involve more than just end game bosses, items become even more accessible for the average person. Jola is easily killed by a pug raid, and they drop lucky sunpoints with these changes. Cr/GR bosses have chances to drop lucky moonpoints, which is even more incentive to kill them ant release them. On top of this, you still have the option of accessing these through loyalty. The bottleneck would only get wider with this change.
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