GenericTrashPlayer
New Member
It's almost as if RNG was random...
Nice Rng. trion.
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Bliquis
Member
Lol i know the feelingOne of my guildies had opened a stack or few stacks of 100 boxes, and got nothing while another opened like 5 boxes and got the glider.
It wasnt so funny untill i watched the video, ok im a bad person
Opened 100 didnt get shit, people were like "OMG I GOT IT AFTER 10 BOXES" #triggered
took me 170 to get it tho Lol.
Bliquis
Member
No shit Lol.
Still tho, the chance to get it in this server is horrible. you clearly didn't get the point.
Will do, not an issue.
well ofc they put rng boxes, main point of this server is to make money for the devs. but its still better server then trions, i guess thats why ppl like it here
The point isn't the rng boxes, idm the rng boxes, but the chance of getting something is awful.
sociopathix
Active Member
RNG boxes are absolute and total shit. It's a stupid fucking concept. The only point of those is to squeeze more money out of players. It's gambling with bad chances.
Adding them to a private server is not for the players to have more fun. It's to make money.
The regrade system is similar, only it steals your hard work and asks you to 1) quit or 2) grind more.
That's why the chances on both should be much higher in the player's favor than Trion's and XL's. Because we all came here to have fun and were tired of Trion's shit. Doing an exact copy of their RNG and putting a $ on it doesn't make it better only because it's not Trion squeezing you. You're still getting squeezed, just not for as much money.
Adding them to a private server is not for the players to have more fun. It's to make money.
The regrade system is similar, only it steals your hard work and asks you to 1) quit or 2) grind more.
That's why the chances on both should be much higher in the player's favor than Trion's and XL's. Because we all came here to have fun and were tired of Trion's shit. Doing an exact copy of their RNG and putting a $ on it doesn't make it better only because it's not Trion squeezing you. You're still getting squeezed, just not for as much money.
Justice
Elder
You don’t have to buy RNG boxes, you can usually buy the item much cheaper on AH.
Also patron is free for everyone so credits/boxes are AR’s only source of income.
mikroman
Active Member
You don't have to play p2w, but IF you ignore it you will not be "Top" player in GS. This "lootboxes" are disgusting gamble+p2w combo items in AA. "you don't have to" argument is one of the most toxic and hypocrite marketing bullshit. Remove "resources" from drop table of this boxes (+remove credit trade options) than you can say this!
echoes_of_eternity
Active Member
I'm not sure if staff members are actually familiar with the retail game at all, but usually when you say "you don't have to..." to players in such a context, a lot of them will say "we don't have to play your game either", and look how that turned out for the official servers.
Save this server while you still can for the sake of the players and the sake of the game. You got more than enough money already.
Save this server while you still can for the sake of the players and the sake of the game. You got more than enough money already.
Ryuzaki
Well-Known Member
What Justice prolly meant is that Rng box is used by the people with the same mentality which regrade their own gear.
Entirely based on luck, not the gold or credit amount owned.
When you judge other players envying someone on good luck, think about how many regrades they might had failed previously, and if thousands of boxes investment was easier, than outright selling those credits for certain gain.
Players always work for what they archieve in our game, the only difference is, if they work in real life too and donate, or if they just play the game and compete in that way.
And before you say that players who donate have an edge, consider there are players on our server which never donated anything, and are now over 5k gear score.
Questioning the methods of how other players archieve their goals, is not as constructive as finding your own.
Entirely based on luck, not the gold or credit amount owned.
When you judge other players envying someone on good luck, think about how many regrades they might had failed previously, and if thousands of boxes investment was easier, than outright selling those credits for certain gain.
Players always work for what they archieve in our game, the only difference is, if they work in real life too and donate, or if they just play the game and compete in that way.
And before you say that players who donate have an edge, consider there are players on our server which never donated anything, and are now over 5k gear score.
Questioning the methods of how other players archieve their goals, is not as constructive as finding your own.
echoes_of_eternity
Active Member
Exceptions don't disprove a general trend, sorry.
Ryuzaki
Well-Known Member
Almost every post you had on our forum has been related to griefing, while this does not break our rules, being positive, even on some rare occasions, can go a long way.
The real world is not perfect ,neither can game be, but glass can always be half-full
cubansyrus
Active Member
Sadly. The more i play the server, the more it actually feels like retail. Sure there is free patron and 4x labour, but labour regen is still to slow for people who craft and run packs. The patron isnt that much different as you now funnel that £8.99 into boxes.
With the lack of a decent donation model, im feeling im falling further behind as i refuse to sent identification or have a video chat with one of the BTC/ETH vendors. Now i can't actually buy the RNG boxes with real money, they just seem like a massive kick in the teeth to people who have to rely on ingame gold and people piling the credit prices through the roof.
It doesn't feel like a private server anymore ......
With the lack of a decent donation model, im feeling im falling further behind as i refuse to sent identification or have a video chat with one of the BTC/ETH vendors. Now i can't actually buy the RNG boxes with real money, they just seem like a massive kick in the teeth to people who have to rely on ingame gold and people piling the credit prices through the roof.
It doesn't feel like a private server anymore ......
Ryuzaki
Well-Known Member
Yes, but if you had the credits, would you really buy the boxes, rely on your luck, or sell the credits.
While obtaining ethereum in some areas might seem complicated, in most once you get the hang of it can go much easier.
Please check these guides, and comments ,it might help.
sociopathix
Active Member
Buy it much cheaper on the AH, from someone who bought a bunch of RNG boxes and now wants to cash in?
Why can't these items just be put up for sale on the credit store for a base price? That was one of the main complaints about retail, that you had to buy ~100 RNG boxes to enjoy new releases. Retail never put things on the cash shop to just outright buy.
Crazy idea, I know. Not to go through some bullshit gambling mechanic to actually get the things you want. More people would use credits if they didn't have to go through a fucking casino mechanic to get it.
Reminds me of the old Trion marketing emails. "Enjoy this and that and this and that in our new release!" And I'd always roll my eyes because I knew it was paywalled behind some fucking RNG mechanic to get you to spend more on shit you didn't want. It's nonsense.
The admins here could easily sell all of the items for flat credits instead, but they aren't. They're doing the same exact thing as retail that everyone hates, only at a slightly cheaper price.
Ryuzaki
Well-Known Member
As you might had noticed there are two stages of content being released in the marketplace each time:
One stage are items for fixed prices, costumes, packs, consumables, and other items which are very affordable and compiled by player wishes.
Second stage are rare items and consumables which amount entering the world is gated by rng in the boxes for a reason.
Palinore
New Member
Here is the real question... Why would the owners of this private server increase the RNG chances or even change the RNG boxes at all? With how it is already, you all are spending more money then I'm sure we'll ever truly know about. No one will ever be able to convince me that those who own this private server are doing it out of the kindness of their hearts and they just want a better ArcheAge experience for us all. This may be what is said on the forums with their responses but behind the scenes, the money-making schemes is a part of all businesses whether you want to believe it or not.
It's clear they saw an opportunity to cash in with the same antics as Trion and these threads that continue to get created show that. Yes, sure, they listen to the community and make some changes here, maybe a little tweak there but it's all the same RNG box nonsense that we received from Trion with these type of boxes. When it comes to "business" and "making money" why would they deviate from something that is bringing them money(probably a shit ton of money at that)? You can say that they will "lose" players but as even Trion noticed people will still play and will still pay lots of money for cosmetics and other items. Until the RNG of these boxes is completely removed, I don't see any difference in the RNG scheme than what Trion is doing to their player-base.
It's clear they saw an opportunity to cash in with the same antics as Trion and these threads that continue to get created show that. Yes, sure, they listen to the community and make some changes here, maybe a little tweak there but it's all the same RNG box nonsense that we received from Trion with these type of boxes. When it comes to "business" and "making money" why would they deviate from something that is bringing them money(probably a shit ton of money at that)? You can say that they will "lose" players but as even Trion noticed people will still play and will still pay lots of money for cosmetics and other items. Until the RNG of these boxes is completely removed, I don't see any difference in the RNG scheme than what Trion is doing to their player-base.
sociopathix
Active Member
It looks exactly like Trion's marketplace to me, with a few changes.
I'm not talking about getting everything free. I'm simply talking about an additional way for people who don't want to deal with the RNG system. You have people here buying RNG boxes for items with a 2% chance to drop from the boxes, buying more than 100, and still not getting the item they want.
So take the amount that you should have a guaranteed chance of getting one item from an RNG box (2% = 50 boxes, statistically should be guaranteed) and charge that for the one item from the box. You don't get all of the other items you would've gotten from the boxes, but you get what you were after at a premium price. You get what you want guaranteed, but you don't get a chance for all the other items.
Although it's still really expensive to pay $30 for a mount (that's half the price of a brand new AAA game title at release), it's better than paying the casino $100 and still not getting it. Or charge $20 worth of credits. The admins would probably make even more money this way, so there's that.