Hyakki
Active Member
i agree with ya, but you get to upgrade erenor any hour you want, you don't wait 2-3 days for it
Hiram gear needs some love aswell.
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Joey
Active Member
Erenor also costs a metric fuck ton of gold compared to hiram which is mostly a labor sink if anything the two armor sets aren't really comparable.
We here on a private server too not have the same path as legacy, having to spend months just waiting for dailys to obtain scrolls while the top geared are already fully done with t2 upgrading in a single day. That just doesn't seem reasonable. They will have a big gear advantage for several months. This problem can be dealt with in different ways and not just mob drops.
Hyakki
Active Member
you can't really compare both, you could potato for a few or swipe and get erenor, but for hiram you have to farm it yourself and just as how erenor takes labor, hiram does same, erenor takes more gold, but hiram takes more labor, time etc, erenor grades aren't restricted by tiers but hiram is, i do understand what ya mean, so well let's see what can happen, 1 try every 2 days is okay
Visenya
Member
1 attempt every 2 days is way better that 3-4 days, sounds like a fair deal
An attempt every 2 days is already possible with doing both ehm and whm dailies. then converting the whm scrolls from the 3 daily quests rewards and farming some mobs for more scrolls.
Visenya
Member
Might be possible yes, what about people that still needs whm scrolls tho? It's not like we will awake a piece with 1 try.
If they need whm scrolls. Then they don't need ehm scrolls yet and would stockpile the result from doing ehm dailies till necessary.
West hiram would be 21 orange scrolls, turning into 4 radiant scrolls, you get 16 from east, so that is 20 in one day 40 in 2 days, "some mobs" for more scrolls is a big understatement, that would still be an hour of farming for most people just to get those last scrolls
Ade
Member
Did someone mention the lowered xp of Erenor somewhere?
People be stuck in t3 epic, while most the Erenor people cruising in t2 eternal. Like yeah, you can’t really compare Erenor to Hiram, in terms of path and progress... but you can’t pull out mums credit card and swipe your way into t4 Hiram. Lmao
Something needs to change with the current Hiram t4/ehm situation...
People be stuck in t3 epic, while most the Erenor people cruising in t2 eternal. Like yeah, you can’t really compare Erenor to Hiram, in terms of path and progress... but you can’t pull out mums credit card and swipe your way into t4 Hiram. Lmao
Something needs to change with the current Hiram t4/ehm situation...
Visenya
Member
People still working on both t2 and t3 pieces. But what joey said was to get enough scrolls for 1 try every 2 days without upgrading lower tier scrolls, which isnt much to ask, its more like a fair request.
Joey
Active Member
Hiram gear is a slow progression kind of gearing path yes but its inexpensive. Any time you spend grinding hiram pays for the hiram infuse cost easily if not more then that. Erenor gear costs absurd amounts of gold for quick progression or even slow progression its really up to the players capital.
But I do think with erenor xp cost being reduced it would be fair to reduce hiram's xp requirements but maybe not at the same % probably lower.
Unscrupulous
Member
Hiram costs a fuckton of time and time is money. With the current situation it could take months to awaken a set of Hiram. It was a horrible decision on live and it’s even worse for a private server. I’m not interested in grinding my life away. I want to play casually. It’s why I left live and ultimately may be why I leave this server.
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Would suggest reducing the scrolls needed to upgrade scroll tier but significantly increasing labor cost (potentially making something like 3 scrolls + 200/300 labor - that'd be 9 instead of 25 t2 scrolls + 900 labor for a t4 scroll).
Would make sense for the labor-expensive Hiram gear to have labor-based costs on scrolls.
Would make sense for the labor-expensive Hiram gear to have labor-based costs on scrolls.
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Nitzaq
Member
I've seen that infusion rewards were doubled in most of old hiram quests, the pre 5.5 ones but number of heroic scrolls is still same x7 per quest(whm quests). Can we raise the number by at least around 50% ? Round 10 Heroics per quest won't hurt anyone on the long term, since people will still need them after all to covert them into t4 awakening scrolls.
TripleDip
Member
It's not a flow? It's purposefully timegated to force people to keep playing, why not allow us to grind and just have fun? This isn't legacy
Nitzaq
Member
Just pay people who farm better than u to farm for u
Akota
New Member
Just here to post my agreement with what the majority are saying on this post. The quote above echoing my thoughts. Please listen to what your players are saying, not relying on staff votes.