The cost to create a gem in how much lunarite it takes won't get reduced further.
The request was reducing the cost of acquiring the lunarite.
The request was reducing the cost of acquiring the lunarite.
Sorry but this argument is flawed from the start.Head start ? I would say wasted time or gold, if someone would spend gold for lunarites he have to spend with current price 80k gold and if that persom is making 2k daily that is around 40 days of income if u lower prestige price of lunarites to 10 it mean to 1/3rd of the current price value of lunarites on ah as well will drop and full gemming gear will cost around 26k gold and that will take average person that make 2k gold daily 13 days. So if someone by "accident" didint gem his gear will be almost full month ahead actualy to ppl that gemmed their gear. Ppl that bought and gemmed gear would wasted almost month (26 days) to ppl that didint. I am not saying here about new players that didin had chance to make gold and they just gearing up i am saying here about old players that didint make effort.
I dont think crafted T3 gemms are necessary to play, old thoughtness gems avalible in arena shop have literally 1 less thoughtness and t2 crafted resiliance are exacly the same as old ones. They are more luxury then something u cant compete in pvp.
Sorry but this argument is flawed from the start.
1.) that price per lunarite was inflated only because PN1 was in a rush to get them and are mostly bought exclusively by them, couple of weeks later you can see demand have dropped sharply, after all the only have so many slots to put them. At least on west most people are waiting for price drops like everyone always does because simply most people don't make 2000 g a days or even close(sure, you can think is uber easy, omg people are retarded, blah blah is not the point atm).
2.) Everybody with 2 braincell knows that if you rush to be among the first to get something in AA you are gonna pay premium and once the demand drop prices will go to hell, examples raw stone, anchors, archeum ore, essences, etc. So those pro that stocked prestige like crazy cuz they knew this was coming and could rob pn1 blind(they have infinite money anyway, so im not against it) would have to know once they get stocked prices will bottom.
3.) T3 resilence gems sadly are not a luxury in 4.5 and 4.7 because this version boosted too far the attack power of melee classes, my brother is a t5 plate(ayanad is wip) user with all res/tough+every defensive buff we can get spot filled with old gems for res/tough while im a cloth user full ayanad with half my gems on(wip, i dont crap gold sadly) and 1 executioner from PN just 50k 1 shot each of us when trying to farm some hiram side weapon, we even made a party with other 7k farming around and some other PN few mins later (i think was an ebonsong cuz my shield was in my inv when i spawned), just pew pew pew everyone to the nui, everyone pissed of went back to their farms or logged off.
My logic with this suggestion was simple, if more people can get t3 resilience, at least ayanad divine(since they are cheap enough since the erenor rush ended) or t6 divine plus some kingdom shadow + honor resilence buff+ dmg reduction jewels, it could damper enough of the crit dmg done by uber gs player to give people at least a chance to land few hits or get a party and have some fun.
We are bleeding players all over the place and new people seeing 1 party of PN making a massacre of east and west dropping like flies in most events or mass pvps is not helping them to stay either, so something must be done to show people if they put some effort they can at least have some fun until they reach endgame too.
I also suggested the option of leave it at 30 prestige but add it to honor and arena shops, that way it will increase the offer and lower prices as well and give people more options
1. Your game knowledge is simply low watch you tube or read guides that were already have here on forum how to make gold, if u not making at least 2k gold daily simply dont hope for any progress in game cuz u doing something wrong. Or just p2w. As well price of lunarites i provided was calculated from today 7 day average.
2. I didint pay nothing for my lunarites i had over 1k prepeared 2 patches ago.
3. Everyone getting oneshoted/one combo that just how game works if u are not a tank and even then
Meaby Whayat need some more lunarites or kingdom shadows dont u think ? That for sure will make him survive hits for over 100k.
East and west die like that cuz of lak pf experience Leadership and to not using proper classes, You have to understand that u play here with ppl that play this game already for years and giving u kingdom shadows and cheap lunarites will not change how u die. And they refuse to learn how to pvp thats the worst.
Well havoc i see a post from you in my mail but not here, not sure if delay or was deleted.
Jesus bro don't worry about me and my gold this thread is not about me, i have enough properties to pay around 1000 taxes a week, car, merchant, speedboat, chest inside my chests that have little chests on them, mats of whatever branch you can think of in packs and packs of 1-10k(depending the mat), 10k of each pot in the game and i do make around 5k gold when my internet allows it(with this quarantine its quality went to the trash in my country), jesus i just check for fun all my kingdoms and t7 health/mana pots and if i decide to sell them i can get like 30k gold and i still have mats to triple the amount i have tomorrow. Again is not about me not having gold or whatever for T3 gems.
My issue is about everyone else that doesn't have the means to produce that and helped them to join events and bit more PVP.
Why i'm not full erenor ++++ then? simply because of real life i stopped playing for like a year, came back like a month ago and basically didn't decide until last 2 weeks to stay and try to surf this patch and play doombringer even tho i hate it. thats it, i don't lack gold, properties or any other stuff personally.
I simply find it meaningless to reach 12k gs if im going to be playing alone in a deserted place because everyone stay inside or run when they see me, thats it.
@havockitty you didnt pay anything for your lunarite but you ask about compensation? No offense, but that made me laugh.
You have to understand that east and West getting run over by player nations for over 2 years already no gear will help them to stop that cuz PN's simply are better organized and have long experience in pvp and on the top of that they got masive GS adventage. T3 gems will not help them survive if they wear divine gear and even if u give them equal gear i can promise u that they still will be destroyed. You trying play with ppl that simply dont pvp and you are suprised they lose fights.If u can reach 12k gs u want pvp then do it join one of the PN's and enjoy running over east and west cuz potatoes will be always potatos u simply cant change it. This is the way.
Preach brotherKeep debating about how its unfair to have them more available to the majority of the playerbase. Economy is shit and a huge factor to it is the playerbase. You can hoard all the gold and materials all you want but at the end of the day, you need players for your gold and items to have value.
I dont even what to say that comment is so simple minded. Yes some ppl actualy play game and obtain items this way and i value my time. I dont know what u trying achive but u not bringing anything with this comment to discusion.
Everyone knows that later down the line after something comes out, it either increases in price, or decreases in price, and even becomes easier to aquire, using the excuse of others that already paid the more expensive version should get compensation as its unfair is stupid. Sorry we arent rich mother**** running around with 100k gold to be able to buy everything as soon as it comes out and is nice and shiny. We wait till its lower in price or easier to obtain as its realized that its stupidly expensive/hard to get.
Keep debating about how its unfair to have them more available to the majority of the playerbase. Economy is shit and a huge factor to it is the playerbase. You can hoard all the gold and materials all you want but at the end of the day, you need players for your gold and items to have value.
4x labor, double loot rate, as well as 3x stipend IMO more or less bridges this gap- obviously you have less opportunity for prestige dailies without alts. T3 gems are expensive yes, but the prices for fireglow and copperglow have already fallen from their 4.5 launch prices by nearly 50%, earth is down a good bit as well and will probably continue to trend that way.Something I wanna add on to the discussion
4.5-5.0 in legacy:
1:Alts,alts and more alts that alleviate the grind for gems by alot
2:Lots of stuffs were cheap due to the permanent bots we had on live
3:Cluster AH
4:A huge part of the population within the cluster had 2 or more accounts.
Now I know it isn't fair to compare retail archeage and this but how much harder does it have to be to acquire PvP gems?
4x labor, double loot rate, as well as 3x stipend IMO more or less bridges this gap- obviously you have less opportunity for prestige dailies without alts. T3 gems are expensive yes, but the prices for fireglow and copperglow have already fallen from their 4.5 launch prices by nearly 50%, earth is down a good bit as well and will probably continue to trend that way.
The devs already reduced the cost of the T2->T3 upgrade to 30 lunarites, even on live (6.0+), literally over 5 patches from now? The best gems in the game are still T3 gems, I appreciate the content being made a bit more achievable for the common player. but IMO any further reduction would trivialize this gameplay component.